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Deal:   Dell DJ Digital Music Player 15GB/30GB at Dell Home Click Here
        Posted 12:05 AM PST 10/28/03 by Ben
 
To be released today! The Dell DJ comes in 15GB and 30GB flavors, priced $220 and $300, respectively (after instant $30 rebate). Stay tuned for links when the product is actually sku'd up for ordering. [Review]

  • Supported digital audio formats: MP3, WAV, and WMA
  • Dimensions: 4.1 by 2.7 by 0.9 inches, weight of 7.7 ounces
  • USB 2.0 Transfer, 16 hours of continuous play tested by PC Mag

  • # 1     Posted 4:25 AM PST 10/28 by Farm Unregistered - Email: N/A - IP: 68.114.197.41  
     
    How convenient that they release their own version a week after they have a huge screw up with the Rio 20GB model and subsequently generate interest in these things.


    # 2     Posted 4:50 AM PST 10/28 by pintomp3 Unregistered - Email: N/A - IP: 151.204.156.252  
     
    yeah, noone was interested in or even heard of mp3 players before the Rio screw up.


    # 3     Posted 5:17 AM PST 10/28 by handle - Email: N/A - IP: Hidden  
     
    #2, LOL


    # 4     Posted 5:24 AM PST 10/28 by Meltz - Email: N/A - IP: Hidden  
     
    It seems like an inexpensive alternative to an ipod, but who knows how good it is.


    # 5     Posted 5:44 AM PST 10/28 by pintomp3 Unregistered - Email: N/A - IP: 151.204.156.252  
     
    who knows.. i wish someone (ben?) would post a link to a review


    # 6     Posted 5:48 AM PST 10/28 by bigzird Unregistered - Email: N/A - IP: 198.240.130.75  
     
    Wow, these prices are pretty damn good if this thing functions comparable to a iPOD or Rio Karma. I am really curious to see how it stacks up...


    # 7     Posted 5:56 AM PST 10/28 by meq123 Unregistered - Email: N/A - IP: 208.236.67.193  
     
    Sorry to be dense... but what WAS the screwup with the Rio 20GB model??


    # 8     Posted 5:57 AM PST 10/28 by Zimm - Email: N/A - IP: Hidden  
     
    From what I've seen, the build quality isn't nearly as good as the iPod and the screen is smaller. I can't comment on usablility or interface, but I do know it'll be hard for ANYTHING to beat the slick conveniance of the thumbwheel thing on the iPod.


    # 9     Posted 6:11 AM PST 10/28 by lpdc3327 Unregistered - Email: N/A - IP: 167.230.38.14  
     
    It's the 20 gig, not 30 gig model for $299 after $30 instant rebate.


    # 10     Posted 6:16 AM PST 10/28 by byteme - Email: yeah - IP: Hidden  
     
    Stayed tuned for Dell to price them $20 and $30 (respectively) so that a lot of people order them and then send out the standard "Oops, it's not our fault so we're cancelling your order" email.


    # 11     Posted 6:20 AM PST 10/28 by telstar - Email: N/A - IP: Hidden  
     
    When are these places going to start giving away the hardware in order to tie you to their online store? More devices + more music stores = more competition which hopefully means lower prices.


    # 12     Posted 6:28 AM PST 10/28 by cojones - Email: N/A - IP: Hidden  
     
    #5, link was right there on the main page... maybe he added it later?

    http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,4149,1364190,00.asp


    # 17     Posted 6:37 AM PST 10/28 by rhyno - Email: N/A - IP: Hidden  
     
    Here's a review from the guy who runs aximsite.com (and consequently, delldjsite.com):

    http://www.delldjsite.com/forums/index.php?s=&act=Tutorials&CODE=03&ID=10


    # 18     Posted 6:57 AM PST 10/28 by Louis Unregistered - Email: N/A - IP: 141.161.60.124  
     
    Yeah great review of a new, small MP3 player...

    Starts out:
    "I have never owned an iPod, but from what I read..."

    The most important part of a review for this kind of device would be a comparison with an ipod, and not just the pricing.


    # 19     Posted 7:06 AM PST 10/28 by Paradis Unregistered - Email: N/A - IP: 63.148.17.125  
     

    Almost 20 posts and nobody talks about capacity?? In Dell's link I see a 15 GB and a 20 GB player. Nothing about 30GB. Ben's typo, maybe.


    # 20     Posted 7:19 AM PST 10/28 by cojones - Email: N/A - IP: Hidden  
     
    What I wonder about is if/how any of these players impose any heavy handed DRM crap on you.

    I have an Archos jukebox that is heavy and bulky but aside from that is a great player. It gives a lot of the usability features (playlists, delete/rename files, etc.) but also takes regular AA NiMH batteries so replacing/upgrading the power plant is easy and cheap. It gets something like 8 hours on 1800Mah NiMH but there are 2200Mah AA cells available now.

    It also just acts like a regular hard drive in Windows and Linux (slow 1.0 USB) so you can manage it with the included musicmatch or write/buy your own file sync software. It only plays MP3, tho, no ogg, wma or anything else.

    The best part is that it has NO DRM at all. I hate DRM. I want to be able to copy/move my stuff wherever I want and not have it tied to a piece of hardware.

    Do you lose your songs if you buy another player or computer?



    # 17     Posted 7:56 AM PST 10/28 by moshpit - Email: N/A - IP: Hidden  
     
    http://www.iriveramerica.com/products/iHP-120.asp

    I like this MP3 player much better... wish I would see this on Bens ...


    # 18     Posted 8:31 AM PST 10/28 by Farm Unregistered - Email: N/A - IP: 161.130.115.253  
     
    Dell is the Ishtar of the computer and electronics world. Both in web based customer service and the actual people you talk with on the phone.


    # 19     Posted 8:43 AM PST 10/28 by sleepysto - Email: N/A - IP: Hidden  
     
    the screwup was, $80 for the Rio Karma. Instead of $400, which is the MSRP.


    # 20     Posted 8:45 AM PST 10/28 by ossarian - Email: N/A - IP: Hidden  
     
    I'm not convinced. I think Dell's MP3 players compared to the iPod's look like shit. The iPod is "fluid" looking (and in usage) whereas Dell's looks like an old cigarette machine.


    # 21     Posted 8:54 AM PST 10/28 by Jedd - Email: N/A - IP: Hidden  
     
    http://www.iriveramerica.com/products/iHP-120.asp
    17 is right, I would get this over 20-gig iPod anytime, not even talking about dell...


    # 22     Posted 9:50 AM PST 10/28 by fpearson - Email: N/A - IP: Hidden  
     
    When do you think this will come down to 20 bucks AR?


    # 23     Posted 10:06 AM PST 10/28 by bigzird Unregistered - Email: N/A - IP: 198.240.130.75  
     
    What is DRM?



    # 24     Posted 10:13 AM PST 10/28 by Samuel - Email: N/A - IP: Hidden  
     
    DRM=Digital Rights Management

    Basically, it means that you will not be able to copy/move even your own songs at will to/from devices that support this provacy intrusion. You may have to activate up to 3 devices as with Microsoft Reader, etc.


    # 25     Posted 10:22 AM PST 10/28 by lpdc3327 Unregistered - Email: N/A - IP: 167.230.38.9  
     
    #19, read post #9.


    # 26     Posted 10:54 AM PST 10/28 by moronhater - Email: N/A - IP: Hidden  
     
    #20,

    Standard Maclot response. Most people buy it to play music, not because it looks "pretty".

    As long as it works, does it really matter if it is as "cute" *cough*gay*cough* as the iPod? (or any other "cute" apple device for that matter)

    Most people purchase electronics and computers based on the features they want, and whether or not it does what they need it to do - not based on looks.


    # 27     Posted 11:40 AM PST 10/28 by gnarf Unregistered - Email: N/A - IP: 68.225.196.150  
     
    If I load the player with music, how much weight does this add to the unit?

    ;-)


    # 28     Posted 11:43 AM PST 10/28 by stephen - Email: N/A - IP: Hidden  
     
    im sure the ppl at dell put the rio 20gb out and said "Let's see if anyone likes mp3 players"...after awhile they probably concluded "i guess so, well that was fun, let's cancel the orders"


    # 29     Posted 11:53 AM PST 10/28 by brittt1 - Email: N/A - IP: Hidden  
     
    Who gives a fruck!!

    After the stunt Dell pulled last week id rather buy a chocolate fireguard. DELL = Wankers


    # 30     Posted 12:21 PM PST 10/28 by rfunches Unregistered - Email: N/A - IP: 68.86.8.222  
     
    Did anyone actually get the $80 MP3 deal from Dell?


    # 31     Posted 1:43 PM PST 10/28 by dcy4 Unregistered - Email: N/A - IP: 64.161.27.210  
     
    I'm a PC user, but I have to say the iPod is far superior. It's worth $500 and more, though I got one a while ago from Dell Home for $400. After using the iPod with a Mac at work, I almost bought a Mac just to use it with the iPod. iTunes works beautifully with the iPod. The display of foreign characters is flawless. Now that iTunes is available on Windows, everyone should get an iPod. As I said, I'm a PC user, but the iPod is simply amazing. I lost my original iPod, but I got one right away even though there were deals for other mass storage mp3 players available. It is the BEST.


    # 32     Posted 1:57 PM PST 10/28 by dre Unregistered - Email: N/A - IP: 64.136.4.210  
     
    #31, And your comparison is based on what? I am not saying that Dell player is superior to iPod but there are no meaningful reviews for Dell yet. I'll wait for a direct comparison from a site like tomshardware.com before making my decision.


    # 33     Posted 5:03 PM PST 10/28 by moronhater - Email: N/A - IP: Hidden  
     
    tomshardware.com? Talk about a wanker. He sold out years ago. No one goes there anymore.


    # 34     Posted 8:55 PM PST 10/28 by dhuntsin Unregistered - Email: N/A - IP: 216.175.96.88  
     
    Something that most people overlook is the fact that the Dell DJ goes hand in hand with MusicMatch software. A quick perusal of Apple's own message boards (threads about PC ipod) show you that no one was happy with MusicMatch. Having personally used the MM software, I can say that it is a total load of crap. A quote from a user on Apple's threads about MusicMatch:

    "Put a bunch of monkeys in a room and let them bang on the keyboards and you'll get better software"

    Sounds like there were tons of connectivity issues, crashes, and the software just didn't make much sense from a usability standpoint.


    # 35     Posted 8:56 PM PST 10/28 by dhuntsin Unregistered - Email: N/A - IP: 216.175.96.88  
     
    The most important thing, I left out

    iTunes for Windows.


    # 36     Posted 6:30 AM PST 10/29 by georgia tech Unregistered - Email: N/A - IP: 130.207.57.28  
     
    #34, I totally agree with you- MusicMatch is bunch of crap. Anybody who is serious about buying this--DON'T b/c of the musicmatch!
    It is like buying a Lexus with a kia engine/chassis!


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