Deal:
Dell S2309W 23" Digital LCD $299 at Dell Business
Dell Business has the Dell S2309W 23" Wide Flat Panel LCD Monitor for $299 + $0 shipping = $299 shipped. It comes with a 3-year warranty with 3-year advanced exchange program. Features a resolution of 1920x1200 Pixels at 60 Hz, 1000:1 Contrast Ratio, 300 cd/m² Brightness, DVI / Analog inputs, and a 5ms response time.
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#1
2133 - Posted 4:47 pm PDT 10/10/08 (540 Posts)
Not bad Dell, not bad.
#2
chuckwatever - Posted 5:07 pm PDT 10/10/08 (13 Posts)
1920X1200 means supporting FULL HD 1080P??
#3
joe1234 - Posted 5:22 pm PDT 10/10/08 (625 Posts)
#2, yes. I think 1080p is official considered 1920x1080 (hence the 1080 in 1080p), so this monitor will display 1080p.
#4
NINJATURTLES - Posted 5:30 pm PDT 10/10/08 (116 Posts)
Tn panel. Does not seem to be that great of a deal compared with other monitor deals out there, rather pay extra for the ultrasharp 2408
#5
byuan85 - Posted 6:17 pm PDT 10/10/08 (348 Posts)
lol by "extra," number 4 means more than double the price.
... ok.
... ok.
#6
moeron - Posted 8:55 pm PDT 10/10/08 (185 Posts)
"Tn panel"...is that good?
#7
czech1 - Posted 3:03 am PDT 10/11/08 (18 Posts)
#6 - TN panels have superior response times but they really suffer in viewing angles. That means motion will be nice and fluid but unless you're looking at the screen dead-on, the image is not that great. The good news is the TN panels are cheaper than other technologies.
You can tell a TN panel by noticing that the bottom part of the screen appears darker than the top part, for example. Some don't mind this while others do - and these are the people that pay double the price for screens like the Dells Ultrashaps, with PVA or IPS type panels.
There are, of course, other differences - this was just a nutshell comparison.
You can tell a TN panel by noticing that the bottom part of the screen appears darker than the top part, for example. Some don't mind this while others do - and these are the people that pay double the price for screens like the Dells Ultrashaps, with PVA or IPS type panels.
There are, of course, other differences - this was just a nutshell comparison.
#8
superchrls - Posted 7:46 am PDT 10/11/08 (12 Posts)
I have a 21" dell from when they first cam out with these in wide format. What type of panel would that be?
#9
lament - Posted 9:28 am PDT 10/11/08 (27 Posts)
This isn't 1920x1200.. it's 1920x1080. click.
#10
SAMSAMHA - Posted 10:03 am PDT 10/11/08 (113 Posts)
TN also has a bit worse image compare to the other type. I have used TN and the color does seem to be a bit less saturated than others.
#11
yourbrokenpc - Posted 7:09 pm PDT 10/11/08 (55 Posts)
found the same monitor at my local Sam's Club for $287
#12
dave_c - Posted 8:05 pm PDT 10/11/08 (4654 Posts)
TN panels are fine for 19" widescreen (where it's so short there isn't much difference in height compared to viewing distance) or 22" or lower where it's under $250 and you just say fvck it I want cheeps more than vertical contrast continuity.
On the other hand, some of us buy a bigger monitor so we don't have to sit only a couple feet away and then the viewing angle difference is reduced with the distance. You really have to think about your subjective use, or speculate about it if you don't yet have a monitor as large or larger.
There isn't as much of a response time issue as there used to be, any typical 26" or smaller is now fast enough for movie playback or gaming if you aren't hyper-critical about it.
On the other hand, some of us buy a bigger monitor so we don't have to sit only a couple feet away and then the viewing angle difference is reduced with the distance. You really have to think about your subjective use, or speculate about it if you don't yet have a monitor as large or larger.
There isn't as much of a response time issue as there used to be, any typical 26" or smaller is now fast enough for movie playback or gaming if you aren't hyper-critical about it.
#13
helmerpgustavsson - Posted 9:35 pm PDT 10/11/08 (12 Posts)
It's not the best deal...
#14
lament - Posted 11:09 pm PDT 10/11/08 (27 Posts)
| dave_c wrote: |
| TN panels are fine for 19" widescreen (where it's so short there isn't much difference in height compared to viewing distance) or 22" or lower where it's under $250 and you just say fvck it I want cheeps more than vertical contrast continuity.
On the other hand, some of us buy a bigger monitor so we don't have to sit only a couple feet away and then the viewing angle difference is reduced with the distance. You really have to think about your subjective use, or speculate about it if you don't yet have a monitor as large or larger. There isn't as much of a response time issue as there used to be, any typical 26" or smaller is now fast enough for movie playback or gaming if you aren't hyper-critical about it. |
the viewing angle on TN panels applies to horizonal and vertical angles - not distance from you to the monitor.
As for how "good" TN panels are:
S -IPS > S-PVA/MVA > TN
TN is fine for most people. Graphics professionals and those that need truly accurate 8-bit color need to get S-PVA/MVA or S -IPS monitors, but they're going to pay a premium.
Those that are gamers or just regular viewing can stick with cheap TN panels.
#15
Franco - Posted 11:12 am PDT 10/13/08 (59 Posts)
#11 was at Sam's Club shopping with his signicant other, Larry Sinclair.
#16
dave_c - Posted 9:49 pm PDT 10/13/08 (4654 Posts)
<table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>lament wrote:</td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote"><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>dave_c wrote:</td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote">TN panels are fine for 19" widescreen (where it's so short there isn't much difference in height compared to viewing distance) or 22" or lower where it's under $250 and you just say fvck it I want cheeps more than vertical contrast continuity.
On the other hand, some of us buy a bigger monitor so we don't have to sit only a couple feet away and then the viewing angle difference is reduced with the distance. You really have to think about your subjective use, or speculate about it if you don't yet have a monitor as large or larger.
There isn't as much of a response time issue as there used to be, any typical 26" or smaller is now fast enough for movie playback or gaming if you aren't hyper-critical about it.</td> </tr></table><span class="postbody">
the viewing angle on TN panels applies to horizonal and vertical angles - not distance from you to the monitor.</td> </tr></table><span class="postbody">
For all practical purposes, yes distance matters since resolution and dot pitch determine if it's usable at your desired distance and the application. Thus, distance does determine angle.
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As for how "good" TN panels are:
S -IPS > S-PVA/MVA > TN
TN is fine for most people. Graphics professionals and those that need truly accurate 8-bit color need to get S-PVA/MVA or S -IPS monitors, but they're going... [Truncated]
On the other hand, some of us buy a bigger monitor so we don't have to sit only a couple feet away and then the viewing angle difference is reduced with the distance. You really have to think about your subjective use, or speculate about it if you don't yet have a monitor as large or larger.
There isn't as much of a response time issue as there used to be, any typical 26" or smaller is now fast enough for movie playback or gaming if you aren't hyper-critical about it.</td> </tr></table><span class="postbody">
the viewing angle on TN panels applies to horizonal and vertical angles - not distance from you to the monitor.</td> </tr></table><span class="postbody">
For all practical purposes, yes distance matters since resolution and dot pitch determine if it's usable at your desired distance and the application. Thus, distance does determine angle.
<table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>Quote:</td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote">
As for how "good" TN panels are:
S -IPS > S-PVA/MVA > TN
TN is fine for most people. Graphics professionals and those that need truly accurate 8-bit color need to get S-PVA/MVA or S -IPS monitors, but they're going... [Truncated]
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